Yes, we are debating whether to torture in 2009. This is not right. Torture is morally beyond the pale. Period. Full stop. It is also unambiguously illegal. The Geneva Convention clearly prohibits "outrages upon personal dignity, in particular humiliating and degrading treatment."

To those who ask "What if it did work?": I ask what does a world look like where you can pretty much do anything you want and justify it as "keeping people safe"? Where do you draw the limits? Is that a world you would want to live in? - Aaron Leonard

see History will judge our torture record